tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post481630699441954118..comments2023-08-13T05:48:46.583-06:00Comments on Crowsnest Pass Home: Taxes 2015, looking at the numbers Crowsnest Pass Homehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-46435199708281471502014-12-03T22:48:17.863-07:002014-12-03T22:48:17.863-07:00"If we have a land, legal, labor issue on eve...<i><b>"If we have a land, legal, labor issue on every agenda we will go 'In Camera'."</b></i><br /><br />If you read more than one sentence of "IN-CAMERA DISCUSSIONS OF COUNCIL", it does not say "land, legal, labor", it says:<br /><br /><i>"within one of the exceptions to disclosure in Division 2 of Part 1 of the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy <br />(FOIP) Act".</i><br /><br />and:<br /><br />"<i><b>What should not be discussed in-camera?</b><br />The MGA sets out clear requirements for municipal councils to conduct their business openly (except in very limited and specific circumstances discussed above).<br />...<br />As an elected body, councils should avoid conducting business in-camera. This includes discussion of difficult topics, such as:<br />Tax i.e. assessments/mill rates, penalties<br />Capital expenditures<br />...<br />Subdivision proposals<br />Tax recovery i.e. reserve bids for auction. <br />Discussions regarding the hiring of additional municipal staff and or the setting of salary ranges.</i>"<br /><br />This Council has voted to go <i><b>in camera</b></i> for all of the above.TransparencyCNPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14226139962752932435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-25281906787515665902014-11-27T10:37:57.449-07:002014-11-27T10:37:57.449-07:00Several responses:
If we have a land, legal, labo...Several responses:<br /><br />If we have a land, legal, labor issue on every agenda we will go "In Camera". <br /><br />The Best Western $50,000 deal was not between the Municipality and Best Western. The deal was between Best Western and Vachon Group. The municipality just paid the $50,000. <br /><br />One of my main arguments aggainst the deal was that the municipality paid the $50,000 but owned nothing. <br /><br />The deal between Vachon group and Best Western was for two years.<br /><br />We did not renew it for the simple reason that it would have cost us more money. The only thing worse than throwing away $50,000 would have been throwing away $????.<br /><br />Legal avenues every time we get just a legal opinion it costs thousands of dollars. <br /><br />Personally I don't want to spend a $100,000 in legal fees to get back $50,000. <br /><br />Lastly do I think something illegal happened here? not really awful stupid? yes, illegal? No <br /><br /> <br /><br />Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-76645432342229489392014-11-26T23:06:54.145-07:002014-11-26T23:06:54.145-07:00"This is what I adhere to, I will not be disc...<i><b>"This is what I adhere to, I will not be discussing In Camera issues.<br /><br />'Council members, the CAO and any others included in the in-camera discussion are required to keep in confidence what was discussed until the item is discussed at a meeting held in public'."</b></i><br /><br />This is a cop-out, because you vote to approve the agenda and you vote every time to go <i>in camera</i>.<br /><br />I would like to know why our 2 year $50,000 Best Western franchise expired in 8 months. We could be told this without revealing personal information, trade secrets, legal advice or other FOIPP issues. The only reason we are kept in the dark is that Council voted to discuss it <i>in camera</i>.<br /><br />(Yes, I know, it was money down the drain, but if there was misrepresentation maybe we should be asking for a refund or thinking about prosecution.)TransparencyCNPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14226139962752932435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-64710535387692790742014-11-04T12:11:43.498-07:002014-11-04T12:11:43.498-07:00Next budget meeting is Thursday Nov 6 @ 2pm in cou...Next budget meeting is Thursday Nov 6 @ 2pm in council chambers.Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-22392989660209695102014-11-03T11:20:03.387-07:002014-11-03T11:20:03.387-07:00Dean when is the next budget meeting?Dean when is the next budget meeting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-69477151961176780342014-10-25T22:57:33.195-06:002014-10-25T22:57:33.195-06:00"This is what I adhere to ..."
It also ...<i>"This is what I adhere to ..."</i><br /><br />It also says:<br /><i>In-camera discussions should be listed on the agenda for the meeting in which they are held. The agenda should contain a ‘Confidential’ heading and then provide <b>a brief description of the topic</b>. For example, “Personnel - Evaluation” could be used to describe conducting the performance appraisal of a chief administrative officer or “Legal – Arena Project” could describe discussions regarding a pending court case. Further information is not required. </i>.<br /><br />The CNP agenda only says "Land", "Legal" or "Personnel" or sometimes nothing at all.<br /><br />And "Personnel" should only apply to Council's only employee, the CAO. There have been several "Personnel" <i>in camera</i> sessions.TransparencyCNPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14226139962752932435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-82745660417245400952014-10-24T14:50:35.282-06:002014-10-24T14:50:35.282-06:00I look forward to the day when we have nothing to ...I look forward to the day when we have nothing to deal with "In Camera". We are all looking forward to resolving the "legacy" issues.<br />Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-57244412161832618742014-10-24T14:07:24.504-06:002014-10-24T14:07:24.504-06:00I think the point is that you guys are spending WA...I think the point is that you guys are spending WAY to much time "in Camera".<br /> You complained about the previous council about transparency along with the rest of council but now you are no better!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-66319395532620973632014-10-24T12:44:06.767-06:002014-10-24T12:44:06.767-06:00This is what I adhere to, I will not be discussing...This is what I adhere to, I will not be discussing In Camera issues. <br /><br />http://www.municipalaffairs.alberta.ca/documents/ms/IN_CAMERA_DISCUSSIONS_OF_COUNCIL.pdf<br /><br />"Council members, the CAO and any others included in the in-camera discussion are required to keep in confidence what was discussed until the item is discussed at a meeting held in public".<br />Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-69193494555872744972014-10-24T11:27:00.344-06:002014-10-24T11:27:00.344-06:00"New lawsuit you know as a councilor I cannot..."New lawsuit you know as a councilor I cannot discuss."<br /><br />We could go to the courts and see the filing for a $10 fee, as Joni did with the Chinook lawsuit. It is public information.<br /><br />You cannot discuss "Privileged Information", which means like "Lawyer-Client Privilege" - confidential discussions about legal strategy.<br /><br />You guys seem to think anything remotely connected with "Land, Legal or Labour" must be kept secret. That is not what the law says. It does say that information is public unless it is <b>required</b> to be kept confidential.TransparencyCNPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14226139962752932435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-9741240536573403662014-10-23T10:27:45.697-06:002014-10-23T10:27:45.697-06:00New lawsuit you know as a councilor I cannot discu...New lawsuit you know as a councilor I cannot discuss. Just keep in mind in Alberta you can file a law suit for up to two years, after an incident.<br />So yes it's another legacy one. Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-2737626829982325092014-10-23T10:13:38.797-06:002014-10-23T10:13:38.797-06:00And what is the new lawsuit concerning?And what is the new lawsuit concerning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-21317476645101855752014-10-23T10:01:35.301-06:002014-10-23T10:01:35.301-06:00The other lawsuit is still waiting for the lawyers...The other lawsuit is still waiting for the lawyers to finish the paperwork.Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-26930677729105170192014-10-23T09:38:19.911-06:002014-10-23T09:38:19.911-06:00What is the new law suit concerning? Also you neve...What is the new law suit concerning? Also you never did provide details on the settlement of the other lawsuits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com