tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post6197142881360392235..comments2023-08-13T05:48:46.583-06:00Comments on Crowsnest Pass Home: Is this the direction we really wanted?Crowsnest Pass Homehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-81263665610980438712012-05-14T11:09:08.806-06:002012-05-14T11:09:08.806-06:00If the municipality takes over the policing of Hig...If the municipality takes over the policing of Highway 3. Will that affect the size of our RCMP detachment? I would hate to see the Municipality hire it's own policing then the RCMP find that they have too many officers here.<br /><br />LarryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-917691736400392712012-05-11T13:32:13.182-06:002012-05-11T13:32:13.182-06:00Dean I hear they are moving the Enforcement Depart...Dean I hear they are moving the Enforcement Department to the MDM. Who will provide their clerical support up there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-38918771607502074822012-05-10T10:50:59.193-06:002012-05-10T10:50:59.193-06:00the "school zones" are actually "sc...the "school zones" are actually "school areas" with no change in speed limit requiredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-21778403628211548942012-05-10T08:39:16.536-06:002012-05-10T08:39:16.536-06:00You may have missed a couple of school zones. Othe...You may have missed a couple of school zones. Other than the 80 at the Bellevue/Hillcrest turnoff I do not see how you could get rid of the fluctuation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-23097750169420046902012-05-10T07:30:55.131-06:002012-05-10T07:30:55.131-06:00I think the speed limit in the Pass should be 60 ...I think the speed limit in the Pass should be 60 km per hour from one end to the other. Start at the east Bellevue access and stay at 60 to Chinook Lake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-1272667704305889072012-05-09T16:39:52.053-06:002012-05-09T16:39:52.053-06:00Totally agree with addressing speed limits. The fl...Totally agree with addressing speed limits. The fluctuation is needless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-58098420492549993262012-05-09T12:52:18.034-06:002012-05-09T12:52:18.034-06:00I think we need to address the speed limits throug...I think we need to address the speed limits through the Pass.<br /><br />100-80-100-60-80-50-60-100 kms/hr (from east to west)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-44821428613060542252012-05-09T08:30:33.623-06:002012-05-09T08:30:33.623-06:00I agree with the last 2 posts. If you hire a consu...I agree with the last 2 posts. If you hire a consultant and then not listen to there recommendations then everyone will say what a waste of money hiring a consultant.So once you commit to hiring a consultant you better be prepared to do as your told.<br /> Why this council can not think for themselves is beyond me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-68785686716046672432012-05-08T19:26:11.757-06:002012-05-08T19:26:11.757-06:00Anon @12:54
Of course, no one in a position of aut...Anon @12:54<br />Of course, no one in a position of authority will actually say this. In a world of consultants and technocratic calm, no one is ever publicly wrong, let alone held responsible for errors, even if they have/are damaged(ing) the lives of real people. After all, professionalism is all about smooth waters and the appearance of continuity. <br /><br />JPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-49211377227178753462012-05-08T13:54:18.666-06:002012-05-08T13:54:18.666-06:00What is going on is an expensive over-reaction to ...What is going on is an expensive over-reaction to what was going on before. Those who want to solve all of our problems with good policy work and mountains of good regulations are leaving too much of their work to the enthusiastic consultants and the bureaucrats. Imagine the issue of the chain of command in a two person department - just hire one person and don't worry about what the consultant recommended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-30460008230560209532012-05-08T09:49:18.561-06:002012-05-08T09:49:18.561-06:00The issue here isn't one of nailing speeders o...The issue here isn't one of nailing speeders or anybody else breaking the law.<br />It is, can an enforcement department be self sustaining in the long run.<br />You can see from above the initial start up costs are very high. Then the on going operational costs are also very expensive.<br />Now if the tax payers are willing to put out this kind of money on an ongoing basis for this service. So be it.<br />But if it is possible for enforcement to pay for itself why are we has taxpayers pouring billions into the RCMP ever year? <br /><br />There will be initial success with enforcement until people learn to slow down on Highway 3. But the costs do not go away in six months.<br /><br />I stopped and had lunch in Longview yesterday for a hour I watched drivers, they are programmed now they drive through Longview at the limit and step on the gas the minute they reach the other side of town.Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-3817377643570314882012-05-06T23:55:44.989-06:002012-05-06T23:55:44.989-06:00The only thing stirring is the pot.The only thing stirring is the pot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-20318931545653202302012-05-06T18:35:56.425-06:002012-05-06T18:35:56.425-06:00For sure it's a cash grab,but the speeding in ...For sure it's a cash grab,but the speeding in the Pass is unreal. Time for people to slow down. I am all for it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-79216486653440351902012-05-06T08:56:34.345-06:002012-05-06T08:56:34.345-06:00Louisiana State Legislative Auditor found fifteen ...<a href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/06/louisiana-legislature-shanghais-speed-trap-revenue/" rel="nofollow">Louisiana State Legislative Auditor found fifteen cities made more than half their budget from speeding tickets</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-89117434947316380832012-05-05T12:58:40.199-06:002012-05-05T12:58:40.199-06:00Personally I don't think the economy is much d...Personally I don't think the economy is much different than it was 20 years ago really. What do you expect, a mini Calgary. I don't think that is why people have moved here, and are still moving here. Several sold signs out, so do not exaggerate. Some people really are just liking to stir the pot I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-46475926244786267112012-05-04T22:28:56.079-06:002012-05-04T22:28:56.079-06:00The direction of where this is going was illustrat...The direction of where this is going was illustrated by Ms. Tona in front of the barber shop in Blairmore not too long ago. John's letter to the paper was pretty selfeplanatory. . If the coming council does not reverse this gong show, we will become the laughing stock of southern Alberta. So far, the only thing this council has not addressed adequatly is our declining economy. Writing tickets and making visitors feel unwecome is not the way to get more business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-37285406992797450692012-05-04T17:39:21.981-06:002012-05-04T17:39:21.981-06:003:42,
Motorists speeding on Hwy. 3? But in the me...3:42,<br /><br />Motorists speeding on Hwy. 3? But in the meantime, everyone will be cleaning up their yards, parking heavy trucks in appropriate places and towing their quads to the Forestry on trailers, so they won't be ticketed. Maybe there is hope for this community, after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-23602937085579203812012-05-04T16:42:58.707-06:002012-05-04T16:42:58.707-06:003:35
You are right so when people have been ticke...3:35<br /><br />You are right so when people have been ticketed,yards are cleaned up and people slow down.<br />Who will pay for the Community Peace Officer ProgramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-81575105802597205282012-05-04T16:35:29.390-06:002012-05-04T16:35:29.390-06:003:00 pm,
You're right, at first there will li...3:00 pm,<br /><br />You're right, at first there will likely be a lot of tickets issued. However, a ticket can only be issued to someone who is in violation of something. If you're not in violation of something, you won't be ticketed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-87190690615819518612012-05-04T16:04:47.761-06:002012-05-04T16:04:47.761-06:00Dean,
Exactly! There has to be enforcement. We ha...Dean,<br /><br />Exactly! There has to be enforcement. We have had bylaws in place for a long time regarding a lot of these things, but there was never much in the way of enforcement. Now that it appears council is ready to implement change, there are a lot of nervous people in CNP. Some of the recent letters to the Editor in the local papers are a good indication of this. This change is long overdue. In the past, if you were well connected with certain individuals who were in charge around here, you could get away with a lot of things. This has been going on all the years I've lived here. It's time to end this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-14235139058964710082012-05-04T16:00:31.851-06:002012-05-04T16:00:31.851-06:00The big problem is that the plan is that they MUST...The big problem is that the plan is that they MUST pay for themselves.So a few months after they start and everyone is on high alert or has their yard cleaned up it is going to get a whole lot harder to write enough tickets. Then because they MUST still write tickets to pay for themselves it will become a gong show of stupidity writing tickets for any little problem. One peace officer would be plenty, after a few months of writing tickets the general public will now be following the basic rules.And is this not the goal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-48954967799165796482012-05-04T15:23:00.590-06:002012-05-04T15:23:00.590-06:001:30
The logistics are an argument which I would ...1:30<br /><br />The logistics are an argument which I would use with the quads not the trucks. <br />But if you go back to the first part of my comment.<br />Either bylaws will be enforced or they won't, if they are not going to be aggressively enforced you could have a hundred community peace officers.Crowsnest Pass Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045130138290202472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-4045309433523406162012-05-04T15:10:43.524-06:002012-05-04T15:10:43.524-06:00Anyone who has ever driven through Longview on the...Anyone who has ever driven through Longview on their way to Calgary knows well enough to slow down when passing through their town. Often, there are speed traps set up right along the main highway. Yet, there are as many people who travel through Longview, as ever. I doubt it would be any different here. If you're speeding and get caught, you deserve a ticket. If you drive the speed limit, there's nothing to worry about. I don't know how many times I've been passed in the 80 km zone between Frank and Coleman, like I was standing still. These guys deserve a ticket!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-88934108583287848002012-05-04T14:48:31.844-06:002012-05-04T14:48:31.844-06:00Anonymous at 11:24,
Your comment suggests the nex...Anonymous at 11:24,<br /><br />Your comment suggests the next council will be made up of different people. Even if they are different councilors next time, maybe they will want to keep the peace officers around. I guess you can always ask the candidates at the next forum and base your vote on how they reply to this question.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3170383155508070340.post-59314523814536875052012-05-04T14:30:53.004-06:002012-05-04T14:30:53.004-06:00Dean,
You're right. The Pass is spread out ov...Dean,<br /><br />You're right. The Pass is spread out over a relatively large area. However, it seems to me it would be pretty easy to find heavy trucks parked in town. They are quite large and to the trained eye, easy to spot. Regarding quads cruising up and down Dairy Road or any other popular route to the backcountry, it's not hard to catch up to them, either. You can hear them coming, blocks away.<br /><br />I suspect all heavy truck and quad owners in CNP know that if they park or drive in town after 5:00 pm or on a weekend, they're safe. As long as you're out of sight by 7:00 am, nobody will know you were there. Only in Crowsnest Pass!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com