The primary purpose of this blog is to discuss politics in the Crowsnest Pass, other issues are welcome also. You have the option of providing your name, you can remain anonymous if you wish. This blog is not about the individuals it is about the issues and the debate that follows. I welcome different opinions to mine if you disagree with my opinion then join the debate explain why. I am fine with that if you never choice to agree with me again in your life that is called Democracy.
What I will not welcome is personnel attacks, so if you choose to come on here and attack Joe Blow because he is not working, or he is different to you I will not publish that comment. Therefore, when you are writing your comments and I know some people spend a lot of time, if you take three seconds at the end to call somebody an idiot your time will be wasted and your opinion on that issue will not be heard.
Thank you Dean
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Thursday, June 9, 2011
Friday, December 10, 2010
Never Ending story-Advertising in the Crowsnest Pass
It really is a never ending story.
Some facts to think about:
Some councilors can not understand why the advertising budget dropped so drastically from 2008 to 2010.
I will answer it again and hopefully it gets through, in 2008 the municipality was paying up to $800 a page two times a week. Simply put 2 x $800 (1 page each paper) equals $1600 per week.
Thanks to a competitive tendering process 2010 $180 per page, one paper equals $180 per week.
Certainly explains to me the drop from 2008-$66111 to 2010-$8444 does it not?
Why did previous council not focus on radio? first of all we only have one local radio station if we were going to allow non local radio stations in to the bidding process should we also have allowed the Prairie Post in to the paper process?
Second of all the advertising budget in 2008 was $87057 of that amount $13158 was radio or 15% of the overall expense. The local papers were 76% of the total cost, paper advertising took five times as much taxpayers dollars as radio.
Several members of council talk about enhancing the flow of communications to the public!
That's nonsense anybody that's looking for announcements on bylaws, public hearing etc will check the municipal web site or the paper that has the contract for the year, or contact the office.
In the last year and a half the number of complaints the municipality, or council received about having difficulties finding out municipal information due to the fact that it was only advertised in one paper? Zero
Council members this week spoke about other ways of getting out information to the public, Facebook, Twitter, Municipal web site, etc. (Maybe the taxpayers would be glad to advertise on blogs?)
Silly question, if these suggestions work, would it not make even less sense to advertise in both papers?
You can make all the arguments you want but this advertising in both papers as been done for one reason and one reason only, because some people are feared by the flack previous councilors took in the local media over the last couple of years.
Interesting to hear one of the councilors refer to how he heard at the convention, the importance of maintaining good relationships with the local media.
Dec 7th they did.
At least thats the way I see it!
Some facts to think about:
Some councilors can not understand why the advertising budget dropped so drastically from 2008 to 2010.
I will answer it again and hopefully it gets through, in 2008 the municipality was paying up to $800 a page two times a week. Simply put 2 x $800 (1 page each paper) equals $1600 per week.
Thanks to a competitive tendering process 2010 $180 per page, one paper equals $180 per week.
Certainly explains to me the drop from 2008-$66111 to 2010-$8444 does it not?
Why did previous council not focus on radio? first of all we only have one local radio station if we were going to allow non local radio stations in to the bidding process should we also have allowed the Prairie Post in to the paper process?
Second of all the advertising budget in 2008 was $87057 of that amount $13158 was radio or 15% of the overall expense. The local papers were 76% of the total cost, paper advertising took five times as much taxpayers dollars as radio.
Several members of council talk about enhancing the flow of communications to the public!
That's nonsense anybody that's looking for announcements on bylaws, public hearing etc will check the municipal web site or the paper that has the contract for the year, or contact the office.
In the last year and a half the number of complaints the municipality, or council received about having difficulties finding out municipal information due to the fact that it was only advertised in one paper? Zero
Council members this week spoke about other ways of getting out information to the public, Facebook, Twitter, Municipal web site, etc. (Maybe the taxpayers would be glad to advertise on blogs?)
Silly question, if these suggestions work, would it not make even less sense to advertise in both papers?
You can make all the arguments you want but this advertising in both papers as been done for one reason and one reason only, because some people are feared by the flack previous councilors took in the local media over the last couple of years.
Interesting to hear one of the councilors refer to how he heard at the convention, the importance of maintaining good relationships with the local media.
Dec 7th they did.
At least thats the way I see it!
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Censorship as raised its ugly Head
I hate to say this because I do not like using censorship, but its my blog so I guess I get to make the rules.
I have now received a couple of comments that refer to people in a personnel way, I will not allow this on my site. If you want to make comments for or against something I post I have no problem with that. Or about issues related to the Crowsnest Pass.
The minute you start attacking somebodies health, age or mistakes they made 15 years ago, I have no interest.
Stop being a twit and Go comment somewhere else.
I have said this before and I will not say this is again I will just delete the comment.
I have now received a couple of comments that refer to people in a personnel way, I will not allow this on my site. If you want to make comments for or against something I post I have no problem with that. Or about issues related to the Crowsnest Pass.
The minute you start attacking somebodies health, age or mistakes they made 15 years ago, I have no interest.
Stop being a twit and Go comment somewhere else.
I have said this before and I will not say this is again I will just delete the comment.
Monday, May 3, 2010
Interesting Story for those that like to comment and remain anonymous.
Firefighters given IDs of online critics
Halifax men now free to pursue libel suits against previously anonymous commenters
Two Halifax firefighters can now pursue libel suits after their lawyer received the names of anonymous commentators who criticized them on the website of a weekly newspaper.
Michelle Awad, the attorney for Halifax fire chief Bill Mosher and deputy chief Stephen Thurber, said Monday she has the information she needs to find and sue the commentators from the Coast newspaper's website.
“We have information that identifies individuals. So it's no longer an anonymous person or an e-mail address that doesn't necessarily specify the person's name,” she said.
Ms. Awad applied for the identities of the online commentators in a series of court appearances.
The first step was on April 14, when Nova Scotia Supreme Court Justice Heather Robertson ordered Coast Publishing Ltd. to provide identifying information about the commentators, who used online names like “scandalous 2010” or “LessTalkMore Action.”
Ms. Robertson said during the hearing that the court doesn't “condone the conduct of anonymous Internet users who make defamatory comments.”
Her order made it clear that online critics can't keep their identities secret.
The Coast complied, providing e-mail addresses and Internet protocol addresses — identifying numbers for the Internet connections to a computer.
Ms. Awad then obtained a second court order that required Internet service providers BellAliant and Eastlink to provide full addresses and names based on the computer addresses.
The firefighters are still awaiting identifying information from Eastlink for a person who used a Gmail account provided by Google. Ms. Awad said she expects that by the end of the week.
She said her clients have a year to decide whether they'll launch a libel lawsuit.
In the meantime, she said she's pleased the courts responded quickly and that the message is being sent that anonymity isn't guaranteed.
“I think our court was very responsive and has continued to be so as the further steps of this matter have been required,” she said.
“People can't defame others on the Internet or otherwise with impunity. They need to understand they will be found out.”
However, she said having to go through the various steps was expensive and time consuming for her clients.
The case has helped fuel a debate on whether news sites should permit anonymous, unmonitored comments to be posted on discussion forums they host.
The comments that upset the two firefighters appeared in a forum about alleged racism in the department.
Kyle Shaw, the co-founder of the Coast, has said that he won't change a policy that allows people to remain anonymous while posting their views on the website.
He said the policy allows other commentators to notify website editors if inappropriate comments are made, and that editors can then decide whether to remove the comment.
He said it creates a free-wheeling and wide-ranging debate that his newspaper fears would be stifled by constant supervision.
Halifax men now free to pursue libel suits against previously anonymous commenters
Two Halifax firefighters can now pursue libel suits after their lawyer received the names of anonymous commentators who criticized them on the website of a weekly newspaper.
Michelle Awad, the attorney for Halifax fire chief Bill Mosher and deputy chief Stephen Thurber, said Monday she has the information she needs to find and sue the commentators from the Coast newspaper's website.
“We have information that identifies individuals. So it's no longer an anonymous person or an e-mail address that doesn't necessarily specify the person's name,” she said.
Ms. Awad applied for the identities of the online commentators in a series of court appearances.
The first step was on April 14, when Nova Scotia Supreme Court Justice Heather Robertson ordered Coast Publishing Ltd. to provide identifying information about the commentators, who used online names like “scandalous 2010” or “LessTalkMore Action.”
Ms. Robertson said during the hearing that the court doesn't “condone the conduct of anonymous Internet users who make defamatory comments.”
Her order made it clear that online critics can't keep their identities secret.
The Coast complied, providing e-mail addresses and Internet protocol addresses — identifying numbers for the Internet connections to a computer.
Ms. Awad then obtained a second court order that required Internet service providers BellAliant and Eastlink to provide full addresses and names based on the computer addresses.
The firefighters are still awaiting identifying information from Eastlink for a person who used a Gmail account provided by Google. Ms. Awad said she expects that by the end of the week.
She said her clients have a year to decide whether they'll launch a libel lawsuit.
In the meantime, she said she's pleased the courts responded quickly and that the message is being sent that anonymity isn't guaranteed.
“I think our court was very responsive and has continued to be so as the further steps of this matter have been required,” she said.
“People can't defame others on the Internet or otherwise with impunity. They need to understand they will be found out.”
However, she said having to go through the various steps was expensive and time consuming for her clients.
The case has helped fuel a debate on whether news sites should permit anonymous, unmonitored comments to be posted on discussion forums they host.
The comments that upset the two firefighters appeared in a forum about alleged racism in the department.
Kyle Shaw, the co-founder of the Coast, has said that he won't change a policy that allows people to remain anonymous while posting their views on the website.
He said the policy allows other commentators to notify website editors if inappropriate comments are made, and that editors can then decide whether to remove the comment.
He said it creates a free-wheeling and wide-ranging debate that his newspaper fears would be stifled by constant supervision.
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