The debate rages in the Crowsnest Pass about potential 7.5%
tax increases, created by the surprise announcement April 8th that
the Assessment Base had dropped 5.2% instead of the 2% that Council and
Administration had been working with for the last six months.
Time to clarify things I have had a number of discussions
since Monday with people that assume a 7.5% mill rate increase means a 7.5% tax
increase. It does not, most people struggle
to understand how our municipal taxes are determined in Alberta .
The mill rate is only half of the equation the other half is
the assessed value, they are both very significant to the process but have to
be measured together to determine the real
rate of taxation.
Take an average residential home in the Crowsnest
Pass valued at $200,000 the
municipal portion of the mill rate last year was 5.87.
The simplest way to look at that would be for every $1,000
in value you would pay $5.87 in property tax to the municipality. ( 200 x $5.87 equals $1174)
Council throughout their much vaulted tri annual budget
process took a position that the mill rate would increase by 2.5% a year. They
boxed themselves into a corner, I am surprised that nobody in either Council or
Administration figured this out.
Why? If they had stated there would not be a tax increase of
more than 2.5% each year we would not be sitting here today having this
discussion.
A closer look at their problem the mill rate going up 2.5%
would have increased it from 5.87 to 6.02 which on that same $200,000 home
would have raised the taxes 2.5% to $1204.
Nobody from either Council or Administration asked the
question (at least not while I was there) what happens if the Assessment Base
drops? (say 5%)
Now the tax on that same home that was valued at $200,000
last year at a mill rate of 5.87 even with a 2.5% increase in the mill rate this
year, will be taxed at a rate of $1144
a drop of $30 from last year. (190 x 6.02 equals $1144)
Imagine a much worse case scenario if the Assessment Base
had gone up 10% that $200,000 home last year hit with a 2.5% mill rate increase
you would now be paying $1324 an
increase of $150 over last year or a 15% increase, this is exactly why a commitment
to a set mill rate increase does not work. Set
Tax Rate absolutely.
While this is good news for the taxpayers, what will council
do next year if the Assessment base drops another 5% or even more. This mistake
on the Assessment base and the fixation on not increasing the mill rate more
than 2.5% has created a $300,000 shortfall this year.
What does Council do now? Well they can go back on their
pledge, one of the fundamental planks of their tri annual budget and increase
the mill rate 7.5%, the other suggestion which I feel is even a worse option
would be to take $295,000 out of reserves.
I agree with Councilor Saindon’s motion to find 4% fat in
the system and reduce it. It will be very interesting to see what
recommendations administration comes back with. The $300,000 shortfall could be
made up very quickly by looking at the level of administration we have built
and the dollars we pay to maintain them. Let us hope Council does not reduce
service levels and programs such as recreation when we are running a very
expensive bureaucracy.
Other options I am sure are many. Maybe we do not need to
send four members of our council to conventions or our Mayor to an Economic Development
Conference when the EDO
is going to be working under the CAO , maybe
our Weed Control person could survive one more year without a new pickup. Maybe
the Public Relations consultant will not be receiving any more tax dollars from
the Crowsnest Pass.
Five key points to my post today:
·
This could have been avoided if the 5.2%
assessment base had been projected much earlier in the budget process.
·
If Council/Administration had been aware that a
2.5% mill rate is not the same has a 2.5% tax increase
·
Committing to a tax rate increase of a certain
amount works, committing to a set mill rate does not, this is one of the down
sides to a three year budget.
·
If council sticks to its 2.5% mill rate increase
we will get a tax break, not due to them making a brilliant strategic move here,
more because they got caught with their pants down on the assessment base. It
could hurt the taxpayers much more when home values begin to rise we got lucky
this time.
·
The devil is in the details, if Council makes
$300,000 in cut’s where they are made is the most important issue to the
public. Little Johnnie’s mom will not be happy if her boy can not play Lacrosse
on a Friday night, but two brand new pickup's are running all over town.
40 comments:
Thanks for this great explanation Dean. I've been pondering the fate of Albert Stella with $300 000 shortfall. Albert Stella has a lot of users and I sure hope it isn't on the chopping block.
The really scary example is the one of rising assessment base what that could do to us with a fixed mill rate increase. My question for you Dean this is only the second year of the three year budget does next council have to live with the third year?
3:25,
I don't think anything is carved in stone. Not even for this council. Brace yourself for some new, creative, revenue generating scheme.
It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. Instead of looking for ways to come up with the 300,000$ why not just change the wording from millrate to tax rate.If nothing changes then next year we will have a way greater problem as home values have fallen even further.I guess the next council will change that as this council is so stuborn it will not admit its mistake.
Home values have not fallen. They are selling quite quickly, not far from asking price. Don't assume.
Property values down property taxes up. Good job Mare and coucil. You are the best. Only A Holes would vote you in again.
4:35 you do not think there is $300,000 that could be axed at the Muni?
5:24 It is the Muni that is saying prices have fallen based on sales over the last 12 months.
So they inflicted this mess on themselves, boy do I feel bad for them.
7:44 wrote;
"It is the Muni that is saying prices have fallen based on sales over the last 12 months."
Actually, our 2013 assessments are based on July 2012 values. These are supposedly down from July 2011. That is the big surprise.
Well, well! "The Kats and Jammer Kids" are showing their true colours. Too busy destroying, retooling and empire building to get the basics done. Now we will see where the blame is placed; will be like a hot potato being passed around. May even end up in the Inspector's hands.
Any cuts should come from the bloated Administration, and not from the field personnel or the community services. Time for them to owe up to their mistakes, and to take a haircut in wages starting at the top. Plus, sell a few trucks, fire a few people, and cut all travel.. They haven't learned much from their meetings, conferences or training courses anyway.
How many Quarters do they need? Perhaps the old boy can dig into his pockets again or pass the hat around.
Reading this weeks Bricks in the Herald plus I have heard it from other residents maybe it's time to put an end to personal use of municipal vehicles.
'Anonymous said...
Reading this weeks Bricks in the Herald plus I have heard it from other residents maybe it's time to put an end to personal use of municipal vehicles.'
Are you telling our higher than thou Mayor that driving our front end loader to Sobey's to pick up groceries is not an option?
... you have a lot of intestinal fortitude with that post.
Well, well, well our financial problems will be over. Next Friday April 19 the electrical system will be sold for big dollars. Then the town will be flowing in money my source tells me a cool $1.5 million.
Jack
Without public debate of any sort? Even they would not be that stupid.
Even this Council could not be that arrogant.
That is a municipal asset that actually makes the tax payers money $1.5 million would be an incredibly low amount for that. I hear now that Mitchell wants to sell the Bellevue seniors hall. Maybe we could sell the ski hill and arenas to.
Fortis wasn't putting in news lines in Bellevue and Hillcrest for our benefit......
Anon 8:23
Umm......I'm not so sure about that....yikes. I mean look at what has happened in the last few months....I still can't believe it.
Rumors, rumors, more rumors. Got to love it. Never a dull moment.
have you heard anything about the selling off of our electrical system and what do you thing about this asset
Anon 7:44 I do think there is $300,000 that could be axed at the Muni,easily.My point was that they should be basing their increase on the tax increase and not the millrate.Imagine if property values had gone up 10%, then your tax increase would have been 12.5%.
As for the electrical system being sold for 1.5 million without any public debate seems highly unlikely to me.But with this council you never know.How much money does it bring in right now?How much does it cost to maintain? These are the first questions that I think need to be answered if the rumour is true.
7:42
Are you starting the rumors? and then laughing about them? Looks like you get your jollies from reading these posts. Is your life so dull?
Looking at the grid ownership on the CNP site, the entire Bellevue amd Hillcrest grid is owned by Fortis. They upgraded their lines there, for whatever purpose. The grids owned by the CNP in Coleman, Blairmore and Frank are in the older areas of town. The newer areas lines are Fortis owned as are the main lines and connectors. Determining the value of the CNP portion is no easy task especially for the astute bean counters occupying seats in the muni office. If they do sell without notice, review and a vote, then there could be a use for those new power poles.
I have had enough I have been silent for too long. Can't you people quit your whining. Look how much our leaders have done for you. The town is cleaned up the highway is much safer. We have policies in place that will last a hundred years. We have a coal mine and a hotel coming. A fancy restaurant and plenty of new development around town, give it a break. They made one little mistake on the assessment base. Big deal.
Misty Schitz
Our leaders, Frau Misty? A little mistake? Just shows how biased and out to lunch you are. Please provide a list of them here so that we can all salute, bow or give the Sig Heil when we meet them in the street. So you think that the Second Reich will last a hundred years, do you? Good luck.
Misty Schitz wrote:
"plenty of new development around town"
Here is a chart of value of building permits 2000-2010:
https://www.albertacommunityprofiles.com/Profile/Crowsnest_Pass_Municipality_of/22
Anyone seen recent numbers?
Yep, Misty, they got rid of the 4 old Fire Depts, hired a new Big Fire Head, hired a medium Fire Chief, (who couldn't do inspections), hired a deputy Fire Chief, and hired 5 contract fire fighters, THEN THEY COULDN'T PUT OUT THE FIRES WITH ONLY LIMITED FIREMEN AVAILABLE. They made one little mistake on the fire reorganization. Big Deal.
Misty, you make this blog much more interesting. Must agree with you, with so much industrial activity around it was easy to miss the gas plant closed. Information sometimes is slow to process at the municipal office. This is why the 50 million decrease in the assessment just snuck up on the tax department - this is also easy to understand. But I must disagree with you with your idea of the 100 year Reich - this one will not last.
Misty, if you don't like our whining.....why do you read these posts? Nobody is twisting your arm. If you've had enough...just don't click on this site. Seems simple to me...or, do you like self torture? I beg to differ with you on "the town is cleaned up" part. Was driving around the other day, and noticed a few spots that are pretty messy. Not that it bothers me. Didn't really notice until I specifically looked for it. I'm not recommending you start harassing anyone.
About the hundred years thing....is it wise to make policies that will last 100 years in this day and age? My goodness, just 30 years ago, I didn't have a TV remote, and had to go and stand in line at the bank to cash my pay cheque on Fridays. I certainly couldn't sit in my house and talk to someone in another country, and even see them. In a hundred years, we all might just be lying on beds, with a set of virtual goggles on our eyes, living the dream life, while robots feed us through intravenous. Then we won't even need highways, let alone worry about being safe on them! Maybe we'll be zipping around in our "Jetson" like little ships, no harm to the environment, all solar powered. A hundred years....gimme a break!
But, don't let me discourage you from posting. I kind of enjoy it! Without a few nuts, the chocolate and caramel can get a bit boring sometimes.
Misty schits you are full of shits. I have a feeling you are Marion using a different name. Every one knows you are a power monger and love what is going on here.
There is no doubt in my mind that shitSY MITSY IS IN WITH MARE AND COHORTS ,THERE IS nO wAY ANYONE NOT CONNECTED WOULD MAKE HER STUPID COMMENTS OF DEFENSE for this administrtion and say they are doing wonderful. You are making a FOOL out of yourself, whoever you are, but I think I know.
BTW, Misty, you didn't mention the manufacturer "by the lakes". Is that still on? Is that why the former Bridgecreek "Trout Landing" has been zoned "Direct Control"?
Please let us in on what you know from those taxpayer funded wine'n'cheese Galas with the "people who matter".
Must agree with everyone, Misty brings humor into the conversation. It was getting a bit boring here.
Misty, If the mine comes it has nothing to do with this council, they did not go out and find these people and convince them to try and start a mine here.
And you mention a hotel.Are you sure because we are all waiting for the announcement of which big name hotel is coming here. The contract for that announcement expires in about 2 weeks.Over 2 months has gone by since the press release and open house.The mare said we had a deal about 8 months ago.My feeling is there is no hotel, that council will extend the terms of the contract right through into October when if not reelected then the deal will fall through. Makes me laugh really.I hope I am wrong.
Now we have dealt with the dip stick does anybody have any idea what they are going to slash today to solve the $300,000 mistake?
Another business gone. (Sigh) Bellevue Superstop is no more. No gas, no business. Sad.
My thoughts on filling the $300,000 gap. I suspect they will not be filling vacancies in the CUPE ranks in a very timely fashion.
Council will take a cut in their pay. I wonder if Admin will match?
EDO position will be pushed back a few months in place just in time for the election.
Overtime reductions.
Closing of Albert Stella and the Bellevue Seniors Hall.
Tightening of the belt on the ski hill and the town rounder.
Reduction in the number of casual employees and students for the summer.
Admin will make one more crack at taking money out of reserves (They have to have something in there that council can say no to, creates the impression that council is standing up to admin)
12:14 To bad about the Superstore always enjoyed talking to John he was a good guy.
The financial mess we find ourselves in today took almost three years to organize.... Was driving from Bellevue yesterday afternoon in the snow storm following the new shiny fire command pick-up truck. Good to see the Fire Chief driving around making sure everything was fine, on Sunday, no less.
We should lay off Misty a little bit and all be in aw of how someone has found such a state of 'Nirvana" in her delusional world.
One hundred year policies? No policy should ever last that long, as circumstances do change. They should only reflect the issues at the present times.
Three year budgets do work but mainly in large cities whose population and tax base can better absorb unforeseen occurring costs. We don't have that luxury with our small population. With no reserves any budget can go out the door in an instant.
"They made one little mistake on the assessment base. Big deal."
They made a massive mistake in implementing a big city type policy change {without knowing how to set one up)and with total disregard as to what the ramifications combined with lack of experience/judgement might be.
The fact is that their first year of budgeting was unrealistic. Forget about adhering to it for the next 2years.
The best scenario would be to change the batteries in that Crystal Ball or better yet give it, along with the Pixie Dust, back to Misty.
@ Sun Apr 14, 08:33:00 PM 2013 agree 100% that misty is the stupid be.##tch maid Marion. It is about time people realize that she has been the root of many of the troubles at the municipal office in the last ten years. It is just the last five years that she has been in the position to create such havoc.
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